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Rama and Ramayana: Fact or Fiction?

The Hindu God, Rama.

The Hindu God, Rama.

There was a notice in Lucknow issued for the members of Vishva Hindu Parishad that asked: “You are claiming that He (Ram) was born here and here only, then present the proof.”

After the issuance of the notice, a meeting was held in Hariduar by the central administration of Vishva Hindu Parishad that continued for two days. After the discussion of two days, its spokesperson came to the media and said; see what has he said? “Ram was born there only, it is our faith and the faith has no proof.” It is not my statement; it is the statement of the members of Vishva Hindu Parishad. Again what was his statement? “Ram was born there only, it is our faith and the faith has no proof.” This means that the members of Vishva Hindu Parishad also believe that there is no proof available for this. Still they say that the area of ten by ten that is quite under the main tomb of Babri Masjid is the exact birth place of Rama. The members of Vishva Hindu Parishad say that He was born just there. But I ask; if Ram was born there, then the question is when Ram was being delivered: were you there standing to serve as midwife? This is my question, you are sure and confident such a way that you were the witness and you were watching when Ram was being delivered.

The Reality of Ramayana

Ramayana is an imagination, Ramayana is not a historical document, and no one in the world accepts Ramayana as a history. All the Brahmans who go abroad to deliver their lectures in the universities acknowledge that Ramayana is an imaginary creation. In fact, Pushyamitra Shunga killed Brihadratha and Walmiki was a poet in his court and Walmiki wrote his Ramayana putting before his eyes Pushyamitra Shunga. There is no person with the name Rama at all, thus Walmiki gave Pushyamitra Shunga the name of Rama and wrote the Ramayana. The issue is the same in the story of Kalidas who was a poet in the court of Vikramajit and wrote his poems in Sanskrit, likewise, when Pushyamitra Shunga killed Brihadratha, he killed him in Patliputr. After that he traveled from Patna to Varansi and from Varansi he moved to Sultanpur and then from Sultanpur to Faizabad where he transferred his capital from Patna to Faizabad and declared that area as Ayodhya. He did not make his capital in Ayodhya, rather, he declared the place as Ayodhya, a capital that was made without any war, that is Ayodhya.  He assassinated Brihadratha and did not kill him in a war, thus, the capital was not declared after a victory in war; he killed him by a deception in a peaceful state and not in war. That is why no one knows the exact date of Rama’s birthday. Rama was never born and therefore there is no true information about his death. That is why it was said that there is a river called “Jiryo River” and Rama was drowned in it and died. He committed suicide and killed himself. It was said that he drowned himself in the river and died. Such a great person and committed suicide! Drowned himself and killed himself! Died in such a way! drowned himself! Could not swim, such a great man! I am not telling that, I am just quoting what they have stated. If you do not know the birth you cannot say anything about his death. There is no information about his birth eventually; there is no information about his death. His death was recorded in this way.

Furthermore, do you know about his wife? What was mentioned about her in the history? What is the story of his wife? Her father was plowing a land and when he was plowing the land at once she appeared from the earth. I am just trying to explain for you the fantasy and imagination; I am not going to make you laugh. I am trying to tell the truth; these are not factual things; they are merely imaginary statements. Therefore, it is said that the earth split and swallowed her as was said about Rama that he committed the suicide. Therefore, there is a place in Sitamadhi called “Sita Samahit Sthal” or the place where Sita was swallowed by the earth. She was swallowed and disappeared underneath the earth. All those stories are imaginary I want to explain for you, it is not just for fun. You can examine the reality by using your logic and you can realize the truth. The conclusion is that there never was any person with the name Rama and he was never born on the earth anywhere.

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SAMIR SARDANA

How can a Hindoo even consider Rama as a God or a Prophet or a Messenger or a Seer

Rama told Sita to whore herself- this is in the Valmiki Ramayana

https://dindooohindoo.page.tl/Rama-Tells-Sita-to-whore-herself.htm

Chapter [Sarga] 115

तद्गच्छ त्वानुजानेऽद्य यथेष्टं जनकात्मजे |
एता दश दिशो भद्रे कार्यमस्ति न मे त्वया || ६-११५-१८

“O Seetha! That is why, I am permitting you now. Go wherever you like. All these ten directions are open to you, my dear lady! There is no work to be done to me, by you.”

तदद्य व्याहृतं भद्रे मयैतत् कृतबुद्धिना |
लक्ष्मणे वाथ भरते कुरु बुद्धिं यथासुखम् || ६-११५-२२

“O gracious lady! Therefore, this has been spoken by me today, with a resolved mind. Set you mind on Lakshmana or Bharata, as per your ease.”

įatrughne vätha sugréve räkņase vä vibhéņaëe |
niveįaya manaų séte yathä vä sukhamätmanaų || 6-115-23

“O Seetha! Otherwise, set your mind either on Shatrughna or on Sugreeva or on Vibhishana the demon; or according to your own comfort.”

SAMIR SARDANA

How can a Hindoo even consider Rama as a God or a Prophet or a Messenger or a Seer

Rama killed a Sudra to save the son of a Brahmin ! Also because the Sudra was studying the Vedas

https://dindooohindoo.page.tl/Rama-Kills-Sambuka.htm

Book 7, the ‘Uttarakanda’ [Final Chapter], sargas 73-76, in the Adhyatma Ramayana version of Ramayana.

When Rama is reigning as a virtuous king, a humble aged Brahmin comes to him, weeping, with his dead son in his arms. He says that Rama must have committed some sin, or else his son would not have died.

(74) The sage Narada explains to Rama that a Shudra is practicing penances, and this is the cause of the child’s death.

(75) Rama goes on a tour of inspection in his flying chariot, and finds an ascetic doing austerities, and asks who he is. ”

(76) Hearing the [inquiring] words of Rama of imperishable exploits, that ascetic, his head still hanging downwards [as part of his austerities] answered:— ‘O Rama, I was born of a Shudra alliance and I am performing this rigorous penance in order to Conquer the heavens with this body. Lord Rama killed him due to his bad intentions and there by giving Shambuka his Moksha.

SAMIR SARDANA

How can a Hindoo even consider Rama as a God or a Prophet or a Messenger or a Seer

Rama;s mother had sex with a Horse !

https://dindooohindoo.page.tl/Kaushalya-has-sex-with-a-Live-Horse.htm

Book I : Bala Kanda – The Youthful Majesties

Chapter [Sarga] 14
Queen Kausalya desiring the results of ritual disconcertedly resided one night with that horse that flew away like a bird. [1-14-34]

SAMIR SARDANA

Book V : Sundara Kanda – Book Of Beauty
Chapter [Sarga] 35

18.”He has three folds in the skin of his neck and belly. He is depressed at three places (viz. the middle of his soles, the lines on his soles and the nipples). He is undersized at four places (viz. the neck, membran virile, the back and the shanks). He is endowed with three spirals in the hair of his head.

COGITO !

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This is Oral Sex in the Ramayana !

Sita performs Fellatio on Ravana ! Ravana was an African and deeply dis-satisfied with her husband !

The Satanic Verse is that Ravana made Seeta perform fellatio ! dindooohindoo !

Book III : Aranya Kanda – The Forest Trek

Chapter [Sarga] 52

तस्यास्तत्सुनसं वक्त्रमाकाशे रावणाङ्कगम्।

न रराज विना रामं विनालमिव पङ्कजम्।।3.52.18।।

Sita’s face with her beautiful nose on Ravana’s lap and not on Rama’s, shone no more like a lotus without its stalk.

NOTE – SITA’S NOSE WAS IN RAVANA’S LAP ! WHAT WAS HER NOSE DOING IN RAVANA;’S LAP ? THE NOSE IS NEAR THE MOUTH ! IT IS FELLATIO !

बभूव जलदं नीलं भित्त्वा चन्द्र इवोदितः।

सुललाटं सुकेशान्तं पद्मगर्भाभमव्रणम्।।3.52.19।।

शुक्लैस्सुविमलैर्दन्तै प्रभावद्भिरलङ्कृतम्।

तस्यास्तद्विमलं वक्त्रमाकाशे रावणाङ्कगम्।।3.52.20।।

रुदितं व्यपमृष्टास्रं चन्द्रवत्प्रियदर्शनम्।

सुनासं चारुताम्रोष्ठमाकाशे हाटकप्रभम्।।3.52.21।।

Sita’s face looked beautiful with her smooth forehead, shining hair and spotless complexion like the inside of a lotus, with clean, white, shining teeth, a nice nose and lovely red lips. She was continuously weeping and wiping her tears. Her face which was pleasing like the Moon on the lap of Ravana appeared as though the Moon was rising through dark clouds.

NOTE THE FELLATIO POSE – WHITE TEETH AND RED LIPS ! NOTE THE RAVANA TONE – MOON RISING THROUGH DARK CLOUDS ! THE CLIMACTIC EJACULATION !

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Fellatio – also was origined from the Hindoos !

Case 1 – dindooohindoo

It starts with Lord Shiva who asks “women to eat his testicles”

Devi refused this disgusting food, and finally Siva said, ‘I will give “you something never tasted”, by anyone else: the “wo balls resembling fruits below my navel”. Eat the testicles that hang there and be satisfied.’ Delighted by this gift, the goddesses praised Siva.” — Padma Purana 5:26:91-125; cf. Linga Purana

Case 2

Then we have Sage Dirghatama who asked the wife of King Bali to “lick every part of his body” !

”After that, King Bali appeased that sage and was furious with his wife; and sent her again well-dressed, after her toilet, to the sage, when the seer said. ”O. Devi!Cast off your bashfulness and then “lick the whole of my body with your tongue”, after rubbing it with salt, curds and honey; you will then attain your wish and get sons.” Matsya Purana 48.67-76

Case 3

As per the Puranas ,When a Hindoo Rani is not sure ,”if she is being fucked”, by her limpdick husband – then “oral sex is the best practice” or NASAL SEX

“O sage, in the course of the sexual activity she suspected him to be another man.
Hence she received the semen through the mouth into the nostril.
Thence were born the twin gods Asvins, the foremost among physicians”.
Shiva Purana, UmaSamhita 5.35.32-34 (Bala Kandam, Chapter 14. For more details on yaham,refer to the book “Gnana Surian”,published by Kudi Arasu Press)

Case 4

Then we have the “birth of Ayappa/Karthik Niggpa” when the “sperm of Shiva”, entered into Agni’s mouth ! How did that happen ? I wonder !

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Hindoos are squeamish about the rape of Seeta Maiya.The fact is that Seeya Maiya was raped by Ravana and she performed fellatio on Ravana !

Hindoo poetry has a poetic way of describing rape – as we will see later.dindooohindoo

Seeta herself states in the Yuddha Kanda that she was banged by Ravana

PHASE 1 – RAMA OPENLY TELLS SEETA MAIYA THAT SHE MUST HAVE BEEN FUCKED BY RAVANA

Book VI : Yuddha Kanda – Book Of War
Chapter [Sarga] 115

कः पुमांस्तु कुले जातह् स्त्रियं परगृहोषिताम् |
तेजस्वी पुनरादद्यात् सुहृल्लेख्येन चेतसा || ६-११५-१९

“Which noble man, born in an illustrious race, will take back a woman who lived in another’s abode, with an eager mind?”

न हि त्वां रावणो दृष्ट्वो दिव्यरूपां मनोरमाम् |
मर्षयेत चिरं सीते स्वगृहे पर्यवस्थिताम् || ६-११५-२४

“Seeing you, who are endowed with a beautiful form and attractive to the sense, detained for long in his abode, Ravana could not have endured your separation.”

PHASE 2 – SEETA HERSELF ADMITS THAT SHE WAS DRY FUCKED BY RAVANA – BUT WHILE SHE WAS LAID – HER HEART HAD ONLY RAMA THE LIMPDICK ! THESE ARE THE WORDS OF SEETA MAIYA !

Book VI : Yuddha Kanda – Book Of War
Chapter [Sarga] 116

यद्यहं गात्रसंस्पर्शं गतास्मि विवशा प्रभो |
कामकारो न मे तत्र दैवं तत्रापराध्यति || ६-११६-८

“O lord! It was not my willfulness, when I came into contact with the person of Ravana. I was helpless. My adverse fate was to blame on that score.”

मदधीनं तु यत्तन्मे हृदयं त्वयि वर्तते |
पराधीनेषु गात्रेषु किं करिष्याम्यनीश्वरा || ६-११६-९

“My heart, which was subservient to me, was abiding in you. What could I do, helpless as I was, with regard to my limbs which had fallen under the sway of another?”

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PHASE 3 – THE CONCLUSIVE PROOF OF SEETA’S RAPE 30000 FEET IN THE SKY !

THE HINDU SANSKRIT POETRY OF RAPE ! dindooohindoo

Book III : Aranya Kanda – The Forest Trek
Chapter [Sarga] 52

उद्धूतेन च वस्त्रेण तस्याः पीतेन रावणः |
अधिकम् परिबभ्राज गिरिः दीप इव अग्निना || ३-५२-१५

When her ochreish silk sari’s upper fringe is upheaved by air onto to Ravana, Ravana looked blazing like a mountain set ablaze, muchly and overly. [3-52-15]

NOTE – SEETA’S “UPPER FRINGE SARI” (wHICH COVERS HER BREASTS) IS “UPHEAVED ON TO RAVANA”.RAVANA LOVED SEETA’S BREASTS – AS WE READ IN THE ARANYA KANDAM BEFORE.

तस्याः परम कल्याण्याः ताम्राणि सुरभीणि च |
पद्म पत्राणि वैदेह्या अभ्यकीर्यन्त रावणम् – यद्वा –
– च्युतानि पद्म पत्राणि रावणम् समावाकिरन् – || ३-५२-१६

Reddish and scented lotus-petals adorning that highly auspicious Seetha have slithered, but again upheaved by air they are bestrewn on Ravana. [3-52-16]

NOTE – WHILE RAVANA IS BANGING SEETA – THE PETALS THAT SEETA WORE ARE NOW ON RAVANA ! HOW DID THAT HAPPEN ? HOW CAN THE AIR PLACE THE PETALS AND THE UPPER SAREE OF SEETA ON RAVANA ? IT AIN’T MAGIC ! IT IS SIMPLE SEX ON THE LAP !

तस्याः कौशेयम् उद्धूतम् आकाशे कनक प्रभम् |
बभौ च आदित्य रागेण ताम्रम् अभ्रम् इव आतपे || ३-५२-१७

Upper fringe of Seetha’s silk sari with golden glitter is upheaved in the sky, and with the reddish hue of sun in red heat of midday it beamed forth like a reddish cloud. [3-52-17]

NOTE – THIS VERSE MEANS THAT RAVANA “REMOVED” SEETA MAIYA’S SAREE AND SHE WAS “STARK NAKED”.A reddish cloud is acceptable either in morning or in evening but not in midday since it is a bad omen. A BAD OMEN FOR SEETA MAIYA

सा पद्म पीता हेम आभा रावणम् जनक आत्मजा |
विद्युत् घनम् इव आविश्य शुशुभे तप्त भूषणा || ३-५२-२४

Seetha, the daughter of Janaka, with a complexion that is goldenly yellowish in the tinge of a lotus, moreover with her ornaments of purified gold, flashed like a lightning possessed in a dark-cloud, when that stonehearted Ravana possessed her. [3-52-24]

NOTE – RAVANA “POSSESSED SEETA MAIYA”

तरु प्रवाल रक्ता सा नील अंगम् राक्षस ईश्वरम् |
प्राशोभयत वैदेही गजम् कक्ष्या इव कांचनी || ३-५२-३०

She that Vaidehi who is so delicate like reddish leaflets of trees made that blackish bodied lord of demons, Ravana, well and truly lambent, herself becoming a golden girdle girded around the elephant like Ravana.

NOTE – LAMBENT MEANS HAPPY AND SMILING AND SEETA IS LIKE A GIRDLE CLASPING THE ELEPHANT ORGAN OF RAVANA

IT IS DUE TO THE ABOVESAID RAPE OF SEETA MAIYA THAT THE GODS “SHUDDERED”

Book III : Aranya Kanda – The Forest Trek
Chapter [Sarga] 52

सुप्रवेपित गात्राः च बभूवुः वन देवताः || ३-५२-४१
विक्रोशन्तीम् दृढम् सीताम् दृष्ट्वा दुःखम् तथा गताम् |

On seeing Seetha who is undergoing anguish in that way the sylvan deities physically shuddered in a worst way. [3-52-41b, 42a]

BUT IS IT RAPE ?

SEETA WAS A LONELY SEXUALLY FRUSTRATED WOMAN !

SHE GOT LOVE,SEX AND RESPECT ONLY FROM RAVANA !

RAMA WAS AN IMPOTENT,COWARD AND A GAY PANSY !

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This is proof that Rama and Lakshman are impotent limpdicks who could not even sense or hear Seeta Maiaya’s
pangs and wailings.The poor nepali randi had to plead to TREES,BIRDS,RIVERS ! But none came to help the nepali randi

This is the state of the Godliness of Impotentica Rama and Lakshmana.These Hindoo Gods could not sense that their
woman was giving a blow job to Ravana – until the monkeys told them ! dindooohindoo

Book III : Aranya Kanda – The Forest Trek
Chapter [Sarga] 49

हा लक्ष्मण महाबाहो गुरु चित्त प्रसादक |
ह्रियमाणाम् न जानीषे रक्षसा काम रूपिणा || ३-४९-२४

“Haa, greatly dextrous Lakshmana… oh, rejoicer of your mentor… you are incognisant of me who am being abducted by this demon who is a dissembler. [3-49-24]

जीवितम् सुखम् अर्थाम् च धर्म हेतोः परित्यजन् |
ह्रियमाणाम् अधर्मेण माम् राघव न पश्यसि || ३-४९-२५

“Oh, Raghava, you have relinquished your high-life, happiness, and riches for the sake of righteousness, and though you avowed to protect your observants, you are unobservant of me who am being abducted by the unrighteousness itself. [3-49-5]

ननु नाम अविनीतानाम् विनेता असि परंतप |
कथम् एवम् विधम् पापम् न त्वम् शास्सि हि रावणम् || ३-४९-२६

“Oh, enemy-inflamer Rama, I reckon that you are an absolute controller of uncontrollable beings, I wonder why you are not controlling this kind of sinner, Ravana, indeed?” This is how Seetha started her cry in wilderness. [3-49-26]

आमंत्रये जनस्थानम् कर्णिकारान् च पुष्पितान् |
क्षिप्रम् रामाय शंसध्वम् सीताम् हरति रावणः || ३-४९-३०

“I call the attention of the flowered Karnikaara trees of Janasthaana, you inform Rama that Ravana is thieving Seetha.” Thus, she is addressing the woods and others on the ground from air-chariot. [3-49-30]

हंस सारस संघुष्टाम् वन्दे गोदावरीम् नदीम् |
क्षिप्रम् रामाय शंस त्वम् सीताम् हरति रावणः || ३-४९-३१

“I pray you who are with the bustle of swans and saarasa water birds, oh, River Godavari, you promptly tell Rama that Ravana is thieving Seetha. [3-49-31]

दैवतानि च यान्ति अस्मिन् वने विविध पादपे |
नमस्करोमि अहम् तेभ्यो भर्तुः शंसत माम् हृताम् || ३-४९-३२

“I also venerate you, the sylvan deities that travel in this forest with diverse trees or, those that abide on the treetops, you may please inform my husband that I am being stolen. [3-49-32]

यानि कानिचित् अपि अत्र सत्त्वानि निवसन्ति उत |
सर्वाणि शरणम् यामि मृग पक्षि गणान् अपि || ३-४९-३३

“Or, over there, some few beings that are living over there on the ground below, I seek shelter of all the flocks of birds and hoards of animals, and I pray you to convey this news. [3-49-33]

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